USE OF THE DUALITY
There are so many rational and descriptive difficulties with the ?mind/body duality,? as illustrated by the conceptual conundrums complained about by the guys and the guest on today?s show.
But many of these difficulties and rational dead ends can be cured by considering those same issues as ?consciousness/matter duality? questions. Try it with ?color,? for instance ? suggested on the show: atomic explosions on the sun send out particles (or waves) called light, which bounce off objects on earth. They are broken up by the bounce off the objects into particles with a revised wave frequency, which then land on eye parts, setting off a discrete transmission of impulses through neural tubes, to the brain, WHERE, its physical travel over, all kinds of consciousness stuff takes place (comparison, history, ?putting two and two together,? ?seeing? ?it as? color, etc.). As the guest correctly stated, and I have pointed out here before, ?color? doesn?t really ?exist? (in a material sense); everything is actually dark; things are just bouncing off each other, making waves.

Upon reading this post, I decided to wait a bit before weighing in. I wanted to think about the notion of extended mind(s). Maybe something would come to me, or perhaps, I would come to something...
I do not know how extensive the mind may be. But, I got to thinking about the Richard Dawkins books, THE SELFISH GENE and THE EXTENDED PHENOTYPE. Something came to me. I won't try to explain genotypes and phenotypes---Dawkins is the storyteller, not me. But if a phenotype describes a trait, different from genetic transfer, then the notion of extended mind may have found a home.
前人类时期(无论何时)从扩展的正念中获益(或受损)的可能性似乎非常小。不，如果道金斯是对的，如果扩展的表型来自于智慧文化的长远观点——我听说这被称为OEOs——那么扩展的思维是表型的，也是我们进化发展的另一个例子。道金斯和斯蒂芬·杰伊·古尔德都是对的，但谁也不想向对方承认。这不就是科学家的作风吗?
Inasmuch as I do not have a pipeline to Professor Dawkins, I do not know what he might say about my musings. No matter, though. We are all acolytes, one way or another.

It seems like Savinar and the Carpenter are on similar wave lengths. Dualism and duality(ies) have troubled philosophers for a long time. Even before Descarte. And that, in human years, is a long time. Certainly there have always been matters physical (trees, turtles,tornados (or is that oEs---I can never remember); and souls, spirits and spectres...those ethereal phenomena that we postulate but cannot slap the cuffs on. Perhaps we need to lighten up and think about Graham Martin's take on things. Does it matter?
When I read his book, I thought: what an empirical old
wafer. Then it hit me: being an empiricist is not so bad. Others have survived worse characterizations. Most successfully. Cudos to Mr. Savinar, et. al. And I doff my beret to Descartes; tip my bowler to Martin and thank evolution for the privilege of having lived as a human being. To Messrs. Taylor and Perry: you guys are pretty saavy. Keep it rolling. And have some fun, too.
可能。

The problem is division,
The solution is unity,
The equation is =,
The lion is One.
=
MJA

As a Christian believer, but also a philosopher, I agree with the above mentioned theories, but I would like also to give my personal opinion. Since I believe in creation, I think the mind is controled by the soul, so as long as we are alive, body and sould are tied, glued together. After death, the soul goes to whatever place we call heaven, purgatory or somewhere in space, and the body, the flesh remains in this planet, so the body corrupts into the grave or is burnt to ashes in the crematory.

This idea of the extended mind is much easier for me to think of simply as belief in the soul. The idea that "I" am a seperate entity from this physical body. As much as I would like to believe in the souls existence, after classes in psychology and nuero-science, I am convinced otherwise. "I" am just a thought, and a thought is nothing more then the process of chemical reactions within the nueral network.

狮子靠在大象身上，大象靠在乌龟身上——一直下去。底部的那只乌龟一定有一个坚不可摧的强大外壳。但是——这只是一个公案——一种佛教的伎俩，向我们展示存在的短暂和我们对任何事情的看法的微不足道。谁知道呢。如果佛教更有吸引力，我们可能永远不会有火药，更不用说核能了。然而，说到这一点，我们可能永远不会从那里走到这里。我们只有在自己认为有目的的情况下才有目的。如果生命有意义，那就是生命。
说句轻松点的话，如果基督教徒和穆斯林之间不那么仇恨和竞争，他们也许能够真正地共存。关于年龄的智慧有很多可说的。但这不是我说的。骆驼睡觉。