The Art of Non-Violence

13 January 2018

本周我们的话题是非暴力的艺术。这是一门艺术——诀窍在于知道何时何地它会真正起作用。毕竟,它似乎在所有认真尝试过的地方都奏效了:南非的非暴力推翻了种族隔离制度,美国的种族隔离制度,印度的英国殖民主义制度。

当然,要打败纳粹,结束奴隶制,把殖民地从英国的暴政中解放出来,需要暴力。这是否意味着非暴力有其局限性?如果你相信暴力只会导致更多的暴力,那就不会。只有非暴力才能打破这个循环。

So what do we say to those poor students who were mowed down by the Chinese government in Tienaman Square? Where did non-violence get them? Well it got their cause in seared into our memories. Their courage and sacrifice helped opened up the eyes of the whole world to the true nature of the Chinese regime at that time.

当然,这并不是说任何人都需要被告知这一点。但假设中国学生选择武装抵抗。很明显,这将是一场噩梦——更多的人将会死亡,政府将能够隐藏在需要维护和保护社会秩序的声明背后。

Which gets us to the real advantage of non-violence: moral clarity. Non-violence can achieve a degree of moral clarity that violence never can. Think of those civil rights protestors, on that bridge in Selma, being beaten by racist cops, with the whole world watching. Under those circumstances, a person of good will had no choice but to stand with the protestors. If those protestors had turned violent, the morality clarity of the moment would have been completely lost.

Of course this assumes there will always be people of good will, standing on the sidelines, waiting to have their consciousness awakened. But what if that’s false? What if most people have made their peace with a system that is corrupt through and through? What if they're willing to do anything to defend it, to hold onto their power and privilege? What then?

那你就学学甘地。使系统不可用。用身体和灵魂挡住它。破坏其经济;束缚其警察力量;堵塞它的监狱;表土的法庭。但是要用非暴力的方式。

现在你可能会说非暴力在印度起作用是因为英国人最终不愿忍受更残酷的压迫。如果你将身体和灵魂置于由更严厉的东西构成的压迫者的道路上,你就会被碾压——非暴力抵抗可能不会让心理变态的暴君有丝毫停顿。但它仍可能向那些仅仅出于壮举和恐吓而站在他一边的人传递一个在道德上明确的信息。

你可能会说,有效的抵抗不是传递信息,而是停止坏事,用好事取而代之,有时这需要暴力。但这是一个错误的二分法。当好人坚持自己的立场,让坏事停止时,坏事就会停止。非暴力抵抗的道德明确要求所有善意的人站在一起。暴力几乎总是使人们分裂——甚至是那些原本可能是盟友的人。

That said, it's entirely possible to believe that in some cases you won't get significant change without a little armed insurrection here and there to sweep away some bad actors along the way. That doesn't make one eager for more violence per se; it just speaks to the complexity of trying to bring about change through non-violent means. Our guest, Judith Butler, has certainly thought deeply about that complexity, so tune in to hear her thoughts and more about the art of non-violence.

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Harold G. Neuman's picture

Harold G. Neuman

Saturday, April 11, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

Non-violence as a means of

Non-violence as a means of effecting change appears to depend upon the circumstances, as you have aptly summarized. In other words, one need not think he or she can kill an elephant with a fly swatter but, alternatively, a shotgun is unnecessary for dispatching a mosquito.
Cordially,
Neuman.

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Or

Saturday, April 11, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

In the world we live in, non

In the world we live in, non-violence seems to somehow be linked to weakness or inefficiency. Non-violence is still, for many, the quiet voice that can?t claim, has no right to claim, or doesn?t know how to claim; the soft approach that yields slow or no results. And yet, non-violence is the choice for many, their preferred communication method, but it is kept on the sidelines because our society ridicules the power that non-violence has to solve conflicts. Believers in non-violence will be asked: a speech versus a gun, you tell me, which one do you think is more powerful? Violence has immediacy, it hurts, it achieves rapid results, it coaxes and conquers. Non-violence caresses, it lingers in time, it opens up dialogue but not the kind that power or immediacy-driven people are interested in.
毕竟,当有人拿枪指着我的头时,甘地还有什么力量?在这种情况下,唯一的自我保护就是相同质量的力。或者以教皇为例:他要求非暴力,但他旅行时却处于最高安全级别。因此,非暴力似乎可以用于小型的、准非重要的事业,但非暴力不能解决所有问题,尤其是极端的威胁。
Efficient non-violence has a role, but it only comes to play after the violence, after the fact, engulfed in a vicious cycle of sorts. As long as weapons exist, many will not place trust in non-violence. Many will think: I do not trust a bunch of soft and well-spoken ?hippies? to clear my neighborhood from enemies. And isn?t this the way we all think and educate in our society? Can aggression and violence be eradicated or controlled with silence and wisdom?

Gary M Washburn's picture

Gary M Washburn

Monday, April 13, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

Are we now in perplexity

Are we now in perplexity about what once we were certain? Is ambiguity THE mortal sin of philosophy? We certainly act as though it were, conducting our arguments as a hunt for ambiguity to rub the noses of our adversaries in. But isn't there an important sense in which ambiguity is peace? And disambiguation war, or violence?
Which one of us is 'us'? Which one, in a friendship, is the friend? Which subject is what is predicated of it? Isn't it precisely ambiguity in these, an active ambiguity which asserts neither one or not this one, that constitutes the venue or jurisdiction of the quality of our being 'us' or of being assigned the predicate?
Gandhi employed committed non-violence in his activism in South Africa. In the movie, Ben Kingsley, portraying him, performs a scene in which Gandhi explains that followers will receive blows, not deliver them. And that this will hurt the regime he was trying to influence. Later in the film he makes a wonderful statement encouraging non-violent activism: ?First they ignore us, then they laugh at us, then they fight us, then...., we win.?
But Mandela faced a different situation. For Gandhi, there had been ambiguity between the White regime and the partial Apartheid it had imposed upon the immigrant community. For Black South Africans there was no such ambiguity. The strategy Mandela struck upon was to refrain from violence but to refuse to repudiate it. The movie Endgame does a credible job of portraying this.
But if citizenship is a kind of ambiguity whose law it is we recognize, then where there is no such ambiguity there can be no effect peaceful civil disobedience can have upon what divides us. If jurisdiction of law is community, community clearly and actively indeterminate whose law it is, then dissent should be as welcome as welcoming, not the enemy. That is, unambiguous division in the jurisdiction of our laws means the community under one venue has no obligation to obey the law of the other. I'm reminded of Taney's Dred Scott decision.
What strategies will effect the political life of a community, especially in so stark a choice as between violent or peaceful protest, may seem a matter of reading minds, which would be philosophically inadmissible. But there is a difference between reading minds and reading character. Character is a dynamic, not an unambiguous state of being. It is not a question of whether it changes, but of the manner of change peculiar to it. We know each by the character or person of the act of differing. If we belong to the same jurisdiction, of language or law, we literally learn who we are from each other through the determinacy each one of us is of how each one is not who 'we' are. That is, not possessed the power legitimacy or character of the community of which each of us is a part. We can read that character because the act of its being ambiguous which one of 'us' it is we are intimate participants to who 'we' are through each other. Community is a kind of ambiguity each one of us constitutes fully precisely through abstaining from any disambiguation of it. Violence is that disambiguation. It cannot result in understanding, let alone influencing, each other. If violence, or the implicit but unused threat of it, is required to get the attention of the dominant part of the community it must somehow be restrained in its effect such that it is as welcome as welcoming dissent. Is there something in our character that awakens community through aggressive protest? It's a dangerous strategy. The only hope for it I can see is if it holds a mirror to violence from the other side that goes otherwise unacknowledged and unredressed. But the irony of it is, this is not possible unless we are able to read this in our character as a unified community. And this means that violence hurts us too.

MJA's picture

MJA

Tuesday, April 14, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

Violence is for the weak,

Violence is for the weak, peace is for the strong. Which One are you? =

Charles Osborne's picture

Charles Osborne

Tuesday, April 14, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

We have the Congressional

We have the Congressional Medal of Honor for violence above and beyond the call of duty--or that is one way of putting it. Medics can get medals, but not that one. It is for the heroic warrior with valor, courage, and superpowers in fighting the enemy. Once they gave one to a nurse, but later took it back because she did not kill anybody on purpose. Saints are also greatly honored and respected, but there isn't any Medal of Honor for nonviolence.

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Gary M Washburn

Thursday, April 16, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

I suppose those who only

我想,那些只站着等待的人根本不应该得到认可,尽管我似乎听到过这样的说法。在电影《特洛伊》中,一个孩子好奇地招呼阿喀琉斯,说他将在战斗中面对巨人。阿喀琉斯回答说:“这就是为什么没有人会记得你的名字。”在战争中死亡是通往天堂的唯一途径的古老观念。实际上是一种圣人的身份,这种圣人身份是后来的概念所衍生出来的。这是一种人祭。否则,很难解释对那些在和平时期被视为社会渣渣的人的纪念的宗教热情。但这只是意味着,这些勋章和纪念碑更多地是我们人民优秀的象征,而不是死者的价值的象征。但我认为问题是把暴力作为一种说服方式,而不是强迫。

Marc Bellario's picture

Marc Bellario

Saturday, April 18, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

I think non-violence as a

I think non-violence as a word is similar to the United States ( as a word ). It's two words really, and it
suggests some kind of compromise, in other ( words ) - there is a better way of expressing the idea or
事物/经验的概念或现实。
>>> so to take one of those hard - ( to the left, turn ) - Consider light. Light is an experience or reality
- and I am talking strictly physical light - a part of physical reality - which has pre-occupied the thoughts
of some of the greatest minds on this planet for several thousand years. You can immediately
perform an experiment - which goes like this - try and grab a handful of light. ( Try it and see if you
can!!! ) This is disturbing because - light being physical does not behave in the same way that
most physical things do. At any rate, after several thousand years of thought on the subject,
there is still more to think, and understand, and finally - to know on this subject to which we are
exposed at least on a daily basis.
Back to non-violence - and you almost automatically must include violence, there is a similar idea related to
light - which is dark. But dark is not actually something, it is in fact the absence of something. However,
in the case of violence and non-violence - I think, more often than not - the violence is the absence
of something - and specifically what that absence is - is - respect. Respect for yourself as well as
尊重“他人”。I believe ( ) that non-violence has little meaning or relevance without that
basis, and I also believe that violence has little basis with it. But like the physical reality of light -
there is more to the story, I am sure, because the ideas light and non-violence are comparable in
complexity or subtlety.



Gary M Washburn's picture

Gary M Washburn

Sunday, April 19, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

Marc,

Marc,
试着在最黑暗的夜晚看清前方的路,这样你就能真正看到一些东西。你会发现,你看到的东西明明就在那里,而且是可见的,但很“模糊”。“颗粒状”,闪烁着光芒。这是看到单个光子的效果。好吧,眼睛的视杆细胞(视锥细胞看到颜色,需要更多的光来做出反应,所以不会显得“颗粒状”)需要几个光子来感知光,但即便如此,一个光子或多或少就可以使这种效果发光。也就是说,这些都不是神秘缥缈的东西,光确实有真实的物理性质。感受夏日阳光的炙热。这门科学被称为量子电动力学。理查德·费曼(Richard Feynman)曾以这个名字写过一本非常棒的书(实际上,书名就是QED)。

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N. Bogdanov

Sunday, April 26, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

As someone who lives in a Co

As someone who lives in a Co-Op themed around social justice through non-violent action, I find the topic of non-violence as a means to change to be very topical?and even more so recently in light of current political debate about race relations, police use of force, divestment, and the like.
I really liked what you said about moral clarity as being the real advantage of non-violent action over violent action. On first examination, this seems an accurate assessment, especially when we consider what our moral reactions to non-violent and violent protestors might be for the same cause or event. However, I think that non-violence is not as morally clear as may come out from the above thought experiment. Consider, for example, a non-violent protest that blocks a major thoroughfare for the sake of raising awareness around a cause or one that causes disruption in the status quo. This is morally clean in some sense, but at the same time shows a disrespect in one form or another for the law as well as for others? rights, causes, and personal projects, a disrespect that might just be as morally dirty as is violence.
Several people have commented about the efficacy of non-violent action. Non-violence, it seems, takes greatest hold when supported by moral bystanders. But what are we to do when such bystanders are lacking in number? Violence, it seems is the only sure way to gain results in such a circumstance. Yet, we might wonder whether such a circumstance has or even can exist, and whether, if it did, it would even be worth fighting against or within. A fine line to walk, no doubt.

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Mathew Inder

Wednesday, July 15, 2015 -- 5:00 PM

This art will surely work in

这门艺术肯定会在一个你不会让任何机会离开和平开始战斗的家庭中发挥作用。这门艺术肯定会在一个你不会让任何机会离开和平开始战斗的家庭中发挥作用。

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adrianmn1110

Sunday, September 1, 2019 -- 3:27 PM

"But of course it took

"But of course it took violence to defeat the Nazis, to end slavery and to free the colonies from British tyranny. Does that mean non-violence has its limits?"

Yes,... yes, it does. The threat and willingness to use violence is what keeps law and order in society. If cops weren't willing to use violence. they wouldn't be able to arrest violent criminals. Anyone who says otherwise is just trying to win an Olympic gold medal in mental gymnastics.

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Harold G. Neuman

Monday, January 17, 2022 -- 6:55 AM

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Today is Martin Luther King Jr. Day. Congratulations to all who have benefited from his life and work. As for the rest, try harder, think better and do the best you can with what you have and know.

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