Reincarnation - Past Lives, Future Selves

Sunday, May 3, 2015

What Is It

According to Buddhist tradition, all people must suffer illness, aging, and death. Yet the universe is seen as a vast living entity, in which cycles of individual life and death are repeated without cease. Therefore death is a necessary part of the process of life, making renewal and new growth possible. So what does this view mean about the eternality of the self? Is there a single subject or consciousness that persists through all the cycles of death and rebirth? What are the karmic consequences of one’s moral acts for future lives? And how can the view of endless death and rebirth lead to greater compassion for all life? John and Ken revisit their past with Robert Thurman from Columbia University, author ofInfinite Life: Awakening to Bliss Within.

Part of our seriesVisions of Immortality.

Listening Notes

John opens the show with some figures about how widely the theory of reincarnation is accepted worldwide. Ken is puzzled about what reincarnation even means, and John brings up the Dalai Lama’s definition, where one person dies, another is born. What makes the second person a reincarnation of the first one rather than simply a new being, asks Ken? Well, asks John, what makes a person 10 years ago the same person they are today? Sharing the same body is not a necessity; having the same consciousnessis. Ken has a hard time accepting that he is a reincarnation of another life given that he doesn’t have any recollection of the experiences of a past life. And why should we believe people’s claims of remembering past experiences? John brings up the concept of karma, and the duo discusses this further, with John saying we should not outright dismiss the concept of reincarnation.

John and Ken introduce Robert Thurman, Jey Tsong Khapa Professor of Indo-Tibetan Studies at Columbia University and author ofInfinite Life: Awakening to Bliss Within. John asks Robert when and why he came to believe in reincarnation. Robert explains that he never believed in the incoherent concept of an uncaused cause; he was not at all a theist, and so the idea of there being a previous causal process of consciousness seemed appealing. In his 50s, while on a visit to Tibet, he had memories of previous lives. He explains it was almost like a joke taking place at a sacred place – he heard voices in his mind holding a conversation, explaining their desire to be in this holy location. Since then he’s had other memories of that type. John asks Robert whether reincarnation means that you are the very same person that you are a reincarnation of, or whether it is more nuanced than that; Robert explains the nuances.

约翰,肯和罗伯特继续讨论转世到底意味着什么以休谟转世为例;肯肯定不会有与休谟相同的观点或思想,但休谟的一些残存的意识会留在肯身上。约翰问罗伯特是否有一门关于意识的科学可以帮助我们理解这些力量是如何穿越时间的,罗伯特解释说有。约翰说,那么,如果无物从无物中产生,灵魂和生命是如何不断增长的呢?罗伯特解释说,转世不仅适用于人类,也适用于动物和来自其他星球的意识。肯仍然不相信-除了希望-为什么他的意识不能简单地有一个开始和一个结束。而且,如果他不记得前世,不就否定了这个理论吗?接下来的讨论集中在澄清这两点上。

John and Ken welcome audience participation, answering questions related to impermanent, constant change, why one should or shouldn’t be more skeptical about the theory – to which Robert explains that in Buddhist science all descriptions of relative reality are considered hypothetical, with no absolute truth stipulated – and they discuss cases of children who remember past lives and the scientists who study said children.

  • Roving Philosophical Report(Seek to 7:00): Shuka Kalantari talks to Dr. Jim Tucker, a child psychologist at the University of Virginia who chronicles the claimed memories of children who seem to remember past lives. The story of a child named Ryan who claimed to in a past life have been a particular man in a hat is explored.
  • 60-Second Philosopher(Seek to 44:12): Ian Shoales reflects on what selfhood is, the changes we undergo throughout our lives, and the titles we hold.

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elderrhody444

Thursday, March 11, 2021 -- 7:54 AM

I would suggest that Jung's

我认为荣格的"同步性"概念可能有一定的相关性。个体之间很可能存在意识的联系。我将提供一个在我看来是同步性的例子,而不仅仅是随机的数学“机会”。很久以前,我迷恋过一个女人,但我们的关系从未发展,尽管这些年我经常想起她。我们多年前因地理原因分手了,她后来嫁给了别人。大约3年前,也就是30年后,我的一个朋友告诉我,在一次高中同学聚会上,我被宣布为他们的“已故同学”之一。(也许政府希望我死。)一阵大笑之后,他建议我去罗德岛州找几年前认识的人。我看到了,那就是我从办公椅上摔下来的时候:我上面提到的那位女士住在美国四个不同的地方,距离我大约30分钟或更短的时间,目前住在佛罗里达州,距离我45分钟的路程。她住在国际扶轮,离我5分钟路程。 She lived in the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont while I was just across the Connecticut River in New Hampshire. She lived in a suburb of Exeter, New Hampshire while I was interviewing at Philips Exeter Academy. Now, as stated, she lives nearby again.

Is there really some unknown connection between some individuals, (or individual consciousness,), which Jung tried to illuminate by his theory of Synchronicity?