The Philosophy of Hoops

Sunday, November 4, 2007
First Aired:
Tuesday, March 28, 2006

What Is It

Basketball, an American invention but a world-wide phenomenon, is sometimes characterized as the most athletic and aesthetic of sports. What makes a sport interesting? Valuable? Fun? Entertaining? What values does sport exemplify, and does basketball really measure up? Does commercialization undermine the values of sport? Ken and John discuss the philosophy of basketball with Frank Deford, one of America's premier sportswriters.

Listening Notes

What philosophical issues are there to talk about concerning basketball? John argues that basketball and sports in general can be considered art forms, and since philosophers have discussed art for centuries, why not sports? Ken seems skeptical at first, pointing out that art seems to have real moral consequences, whereas basketball is all about scoring points and winning games. However, pretense seems to be at the heart of many more traditional art forms, whereas basketball is real. John tries to show that in some ways both sports and art are combinations of pretense and reality. Ken admits that maybe there is something deep here after all!

肯介绍弗兰克·德福德,《体育画报》的资深作家,NPR早间版的评论员,14本书的作者。约翰问弗兰克,篮球的审美中是否有什么独特之处,篮球是否真的是最漂亮的运动。德福德先生认为,尽管某些个人运动比篮球更漂亮,其他团队运动的一小部分也特别优雅(比如棒球中的双人双打),但篮球是最漂亮的团队运动。

Ken makes the observation that college ball seems more team-oriented than professional basketball. Frank and John discuss the impact of this on the concept of team as well as the team vs. individual battles of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain. Frank returns to the question of winning ugly or losing beautifully by mentioning commercialism in all art forms, concluding that aesthetics often go out the window in favor of more practical monetary concerns.

短暂的休息后,Ken开始谈论篮球作为一种道德教育工具可能产生的积极影响。弗兰克认为,篮球和一般的体育运动教会人们为了团队而放弃,为了共同的目标而一起努力,这是非常重要的,他总结说,体育运动在很大程度上是积极的影响。2022世界杯F组赛程肯在一定程度上不同意这种看法,虽然体育可能是球员学习和练习坚韧和团队合作等重要事情的道德剧场,但NBA的巨额薪水和自私的打法让这种剧场存在严重问题。弗兰克试图通过将儿童教育和职业体育分开来澄清这一讨论,他还指出,高水平的演员、作家和歌手有巨大的经济动机,这并不一定会破坏他们的行为。

Ken integrates his experience as a little league baseball coach into the discussion by mentioning a certain San Francisco hero who many of his kids idolize and the impact of his steroid controversies on these young children's view of the world. Frank agrees that athletes are feeling increasingly entitled to break rules and the corruption of youth players, with scouters lying and cheating them through school. However, Frank thinks that Ken is underestimating the intelligence of children: most kids realize that any group of adults will have some bad apples or thugs, and these exceptions won't ruin their view of sports or the world.

Callers discuss issues ranging from the aesthetics of sports to the engagement that arises from awe or wonder. Frank believes that no matter what, people are more satisfied to win or have their favorite team win than they are to watch a really close and exciting game, and that all of us--even the most scrupulous referees--become attached to one side or the other by the end of the game. John retorts that sometimes when your favorite team has already been knocked out of the running, it isn't winning or losing that matters, but instead how close and exciting the game is: you tend to root for whoever is losing, and your loyalty switches back and forth. Frank agrees, but ultimately thinks that in order to write a good story, in order to be really engaged, you have to be pulling for one side to win.

弗兰克指出,在每一种艺术形式中都有竞争,奥斯卡奖就是其中最突出的一个,许多高欺骗性的活动最终在公众眼中都归结为谁赢得了什么奖。不幸的是,政治也属于这一类,因为人们往往更关心谁会赢,而不是人们代表什么。肯和约翰讨论了体育运动是如何影响我们所有的活动的,因为它们是如此好的娱乐。弗兰克谈到了一些有趣的历史体育运动,以及与宗教或仪式意义相关的体育运动的伦理后果。弗兰克认为竞争是生活的自然组成部分,并回应来电者对竞争的担忧以及竞争给人们带来的感受。最后,约翰和肯讨论了有关大学体育奖学金的棘手问题,以及当大学运动员为他们就读的学校创造了如此多的收入时,不给他们作为娱乐演员的报酬的道德问题。

最后,约翰认为你可以从哲学和任何事情中获得乐趣——甚至是篮球!在节目的最后,Ken和John比较了不同的运动及其规则系统,评论了在足球中得分比在篮球中得分要困难得多,把棒球放在中间作为完美的运动(Ken说的!),最后离题到内场飞球规则和指定的击球手。

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