科学取代宗教了吗?

Tuesday, August 10, 2004
First Aired:
Tuesday, March 23, 2004

What Is It

Has science replaced religion? Can one be religious and maintain a scientific viewpoint? Does belief in evolution undermine morality or belief in God, or vice versa? Ken and John take on the big questions with George Ellis from the University of Cape Town, author of论宇宙的道德本质。

Listening Notes

Has science replaced religion? In John and Ken's first discussion on the issue, Ken claims that science can explain everything. Religion insofar as it does anything, certainly does not explain how the world works. Religion and science, then, shouldn't be seen as two different worldviews designed to examine and provide solutions for the same questions. John, on the other hand, challenges this claim. Historically, there have been two arguments from design that have persuaded many people that God must exist in order for the world to exist as it does. The first argument ranges over a somewhat lesser scope than the second, and points to the fact that many things seem to have some kind of purpose or design without which they or other species could not exist or, at least, flourish. For example, it can be argued that trees bear fruit designed in such a way that people can eat it. Sheep grow wool designed to be useful protective human clothing. Even machines, which are not as complicated as human beings, are not a product of luck or random chance. Therefore their must be some higher being, God, who designed the world in such a way to explain its complexity. As Ken points out, this argument lost its soundness after Darwin posed his theory of evolution.

The second argument from design, however, begins by questioning the origins of evolution itself. It runs as follows: first, grant that evolution—and not God—can sufficient explanation for the complexity discussed in the first argument. Still, the universal constants that define important parameters for our universe such as the smallest measurable length, the gravitation constant, the rate of expansion, and so on need to be so precise—they would define a different universe if they weren't—that it seems that we couldn't possibly be here by chance. Again, there must be some higher being, God, who selected the constants for the universe in order to explain why such a universe that can sustain human life exists. Physics itself seems to point to the conclusion that if the constants determining the fundamental aspects of our universe were any different, a universe like ours would not exist. However, at least Ken concedes that even if there were an ultimate objection to this argument, it seems that science could not explain everything. After all, questions of ethics and how we ought to live tend to lie outside science's domain. To say that science explains everything, then, is not to say that every question is a scientific one.

乔治·埃利斯(George Ellis)讨论了他认为设计的第二个论点如此吸引人的原因。如果不假设有一个能够决定物理定律的上帝,似乎很难相信有意识的生物能够自发地、纯粹地由质子和电子偶然地产生。此外,还有宇宙的“微调”。如果在宇宙的历史中,任何一条物理定律稍有不同,原子就不可能形成:如果任何一种基本力被改变,或者如果引力和宇宙膨胀之间的平衡与现在有任何不同,原子就不可能形成:就不会有质子、电子、光或其他任何东西。我们的宇宙是特别独特的,即使在可能支持智能生命形式的宇宙中也是如此。但正如肯所提出的问题仍然存在:为什么上帝应该是宇宙不可思议的必要条件?为什么不简单地解释我们在宇宙中的存在是一种运气呢?埃利斯通过解释宇宙产生于偶然这一说法的一些论据来回答这个问题。这种观点有两种。第一个论点声称,只有一个宇宙被创造出来,而且它恰好是那种可以产生人类来观察它的宇宙。 Since only one universe is postulated, the amount of chance involved is incredulously large. The other argument or theory states that there are actually billions of other universes—or regions of our universe beyond our observable universe—that had various expansion constants and consequently evolved differently. Some of these universes, then, survived long enough and had the right conditions to support life: many did not. Some cosmologists claim that the multiverse theory is more scientifically acceptable than the prior theory because it can be statistically verified—in theory—and its probability is much better than that of a single universe happening to be the one in which we live.

  • Amy Standen the Roving Philosophical Reporter(Seek To 00:04:30): Bob Russell, a physicist and director of the Center for Theology in the Natural Sciences at Berkley, relates a personal story of when he confronted the issue of science and religion as a twelve-year-old boy. Russell now believes that in doing science he is coming to know God's creations in a new and meaningful way. For him, then, science can be understood in a broader framework, a framework that does not automatically exclude God from its worldview.
  • Ian Shoales, the Sixty-Second Philosopher(Seek To 00:37:50): Ian Shoales discusses the life and work of B. F. Skinner.
  • Conundrum: Dave in Boston calls in for advice about a roommate who stole a not insignifanct amount of money from him. The roommate confessed and returned the money, but Dave worries about whether to tell the other residents of the house.

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