Who was Confucius? He was a sixth century resident of China who wandered around teaching about virtue. He thought that if each level of a government is well ordered, each other level will be well ordered. Ken introduces the guest, Paul Kjellberg, professor at Whittier College. John asks if there is a consistent philosophical vision behind the sayings. Kjellberg says there is and there are different versions as interpreted by his followers. Confucius lived at a time of war, so his philosophy emphasized unity and harmony. Kjellberg explains how this meshes with the Confucian emphasis on study.

Kjellberg解释了什么是仪式以及它对孔子的重要性。仪式必须真诚地进行。表面形态没有那么重要。Ken问儒家伦理和西方伦理有什么相似之处。仪式对于建立社区很重要。道家和儒家思想是相关的还是对立的?Kjellberg不这么认为，尽管这很难。Kjellberg指出了对孔子哲学最大的误解，把对过去的兴趣等同于对过去的崇拜。这对中国女性产生了负面影响。

Chinese culture is famous for innovation, such as movable type and gunpowder. Is there anything in Confucianism that supports innovative thinking? Kjellberg says that there were periods in the Confucian tradition that supported it. He also says that there is an emphasis on community building innovation. Ken asks if one could base a women's rights or civil rights movement on Confucian ideal. Kjellberg thinks you can. John and Ken close by discussing the aspects of Confucianism that they think would be beneficial for Western culture.

• Roving Philosophical Report(Seek to 04:32): Amy Standen interviews Chinese-Americans about what Confucian teachings mean to them.

• Philosophy Talk Goes to the Movies(Seek to 45:50): John and Ken discuss the philosophical aspects ofMillion Dollar Baby.