Extreme Altruism

03 April 2016

利他主义者是那些愿意以牺牲自己的幸福和幸福为代价为他人做好事的人。有些人认为人类本质上是完全利己的。利己主义与利他主义恰恰相反。但事实上,我们大多数人至少都有一点利他主义。

想想那些为了孩子牺牲自己幸福的父母吧。想想那些士兵,他们放弃了舒适的家庭和壁炉,去遥远的沙漠作战。他们的动机是利他主义,而不是赤裸裸的利己主义。一些进化心理学家和生物学家甚至认为,至少有一定程度的利他主义倾向——尤其是所谓的“群体内”利他主义——对亲人和亲人的利他主义——是自然选择在人类中形成的。不仅仅是心理学和生物学让我们产生某种程度的利他主义。道德和宗教显然也是如此。

Altruism is clearly a good thing, if not always for individuals who practice it, at least for the groups to which they belong. But is it possible to take altruism too far? Take somebody who adopts as many needy children as they possibly can and is filled with regret that they can’t do more. People like that seem kind of saintly, and we generally admire saints. They inspire us and help us honor the better angels of our nature.

但想象一下,如果一对夫妇觉得自己的亲生孩子有一种永不满足的圣人需求,他们尽可能地拯救每一个痛苦的孩子,那将会是什么样子。在某种程度上,你可能会说。“妈妈,爸爸,我们现在能不能停下来,做一个正常的家庭,这样我们就能有更多的东西,做更多的事情?”

So where do we draw the line between self-indulgence and duty? I grant that it’s not okay to let your own children just starve so that you can feed more hungry children around the world. But isn’t it just as wrong to overindulge your children while entirely ignoring the needs of less fortunate strangers?

Depends what we mean by overindulgence. How could I justify buying my kids the latest hot toy, which they don’t really need, when I could use the same money to buy food and clothes for dozens of needy kids in some rural third world village? I think of all the money I spent on helping my son master baseball – all the good times he and I had together, traveling to tournaments and showcases. Should I have given that up to so that I could have helped more struggling strangers?

I gotta admit that I wouldn’t trade those experience for the world. So what does that make me – a selfish schmuck? Or a father who loves and cherishes his own son? I think I admire extreme altruists. But I don’t really have what it takes to be one. But our guest, Larissa MacFarquhar has written a whole book about people who live in extreme devotion to the well-being of strangers, and she's learned some surprising things about them. Tune in to hear all the gory details.

Comments(4)


Harold G. Neuman's picture

Harold G. Neuman

Tuesday, April 5, 2016 -- 5:00 PM

利他主义是一件有趣的事情。

利他主义是一件有趣的事情。我还没有读过麦克法夸尔的书,也没有读过其他有关这个话题的书,我只能说,利他主义有时会让我想起那些花太多时间在镜子前打扮自己、欣赏自己的人。关心朋友和家人的幸福是一回事:这是人类对那些对我们自身身份和人类意义至关重要的人的义务。关注或过度关注陌生人的福祉似乎是危险的异常行为;可能会走向自我毁灭。除非你是教皇,否则这个站是一种特别罕见的疯狂。现在,我想这种疯狂的利他主义是有一些好处的。有些人会得到认可,是的,甚至是金钱,当他们拥护和追求慈善事业时。通常,慈善家受到最高的尊重,当然,这让他们对他们的事业和自己感觉很好。因此,利他主义和慈善之间的关系似乎很密切。
我们确实喜欢对自己和自己所做的事情感觉良好。快乐与痛苦。自尊可以是一种自然的存在状态,也可以是通过“无私的利他行为”人为获得的。在这两种情况下,动机的基础几乎都是自私的。
Neuman

Tim Smith's picture

Tim Smith

Saturday, April 9, 2016 -- 5:00 PM

It seems like most of the

It seems like most of the discussion here was of altruists who took a different path to happiness not those who sacrificed happiness for altruistic reasons. Am I missing the point? Let me comeback to this. I will read this book and check back here.
士兵或特蕾莎修女与年收入25万美元、生活入不敷出的夫妇属于不同的类别。我得考虑一下。不知道是这部剧误导了我,还是我误导了。我认为两者都有可能。

Gary M Washburn's picture

Gary M Washburn

Tuesday, April 12, 2016 -- 5:00 PM

Rawls's notion of the maximin

Rawls's notion of the maximin comes to mind, obviating the question by maximizing the well-being of all. I find obsessives highly annoying (activists, religionists and the like). It is hard to see how the rich of today can live up to their means anyway, it is no more impressive that they spend it on philanthropy than on a lavish lifestyle. But the lower-class obsessives would be unnecessary if the resources available were distributed fairly. But fanaticism is inauthentic in any context.

Harold G. Neuman's picture

Harold G. Neuman

Monday, December 10, 2018 -- 11:10 AM

In the vein of good feelings,

In the vein of good feelings, my recent essay on the notion of infinity might give some insight. I will share some excerpts, if I may: I said that people feel better about things they can qualify or quantify, The evolution and continuing sophistication of human consciousness gives rise to an expanding need for comfort in this regard, hence, the growing emphasis on qualitative and quantitative measures from amoebas to zygotes...A little later in the piece, I said I had no quarrel with any of that. But, unless you love the heat of philosophy, the thrill of agony and the victory of defeat, you may as well cross infinity off your list, be that 'bucket' or otherwise. It is not an achievement. Nor a destination. Neither you nor I nor anyone else will ever get there...there is no 'there' to get to....Well these are only small snippets of a rather short writing. The key notion here is the comfort factor and our NEED-TO-KNOW, even when there is nothing to do with that knowledge. A little different from my 2016 observations---but, I have had some time to adjust, and that has made ME feel better...